Review COD de TEam Fusion

Donde los pilotos se reúnen tras sus vuelos para beber cerveza fría y brindar a la salud de los caídos. Offtopic.
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Review COD de TEam Fusion

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http://www.simhq.com/_air15/air_547a.html

Pero vamos que el il2 le sigue dando 100.000 vueltas, :ymdevil: excepto en graficos y sonido claro :-\
Yo voy con la carlinga abierta por el canal...es una delicia oir el sonidete de un compañero spit, o del 109 cuando se te acerca y te hace una pesada, el rolls suena que es una delicia y el del 109 suena de MuertEEEE!!! :D
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no estoy deacuerdo, el il2 es viejo y no consigue los mismos resultados de realismo en las fisicas de vuelo, soy defensor a ultranza del COD, es una pena que no este al 100%, pero si hubieran hecho un buen trabajo hoy seria la alternativa. y el Il2 se queda unicamente por su facilidad para el editor de msiiones y por la seow que es un programa externo a 1C

ya hablaremos largo y tendido jeje

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Esperemos a que el COD cumpla 10 años y veremos de que es capaz.
Hoy en día el COD es muy agradable para salir a volar por el canal o incluso una dogfight pero montar una campaña es otra cosa y lo de SEOW ni hablar. Pero como digo, el 1946 le lleva mas de una década de ventaja en mejoras, mods, apps externas etc.
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=gRiJ=Aty2 escribió:no estoy deacuerdo, el il2 es viejo y no consigue los mismos resultados de realismo en las fisicas de vuelo, soy defensor a ultranza del COD, es una pena que no este al 100%, pero si hubieran hecho un buen trabajo hoy seria la alternativa. y el Il2 se queda unicamente por su facilidad para el editor de msiiones y por la seow que es un programa externo a 1C

ya hablaremos largo y tendido jeje

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Hombre no le puedes pedir lo mismo al il2, es evidente, pero en cuanto a inmersion en el juego, para mi el il2 es mejor por esos 10 años de ventajas y de mods que comenta trenkos, y sobre todo por la capacidad de crear campañas dinamicas. Por alguna razon ningun sim moderno las contempla, excepto un beta que anda por el ROF
Es evidente (para mi) que frente a todas esas mejoras el COD queda en desventaja, si se pudiera aprobechar ese trabajo sobre todo en lo que a campañas dinamicas se refiere seria todo un adelanto, pero de momento o editas a mano o no a nada que hacer y a la hora de volar en plan dos bandos es un problema. Intentar hace a mano una campaña teniendo en cuenta todo lo que conlleva lleva muchissimo trabajo y en este caso del COD aun mas, por que tienes que contar con un HUMANO que lo controle todo a huevo y hacer las misiones a huevo como pasa con DCS y es una pesadilla.

PAra mi graficos y sonido no son primordiales ni mucho menos, por eso le doy al Steel Beast, al Silent Hunter III y hasta hace poco al Flashpoint y alguno mas que me dejo.

El mapa del canal tampoco es que de mucho juego, que lo tiene desde luego, pero por lo que vuelo y veo, la peña se limita a volar a ver a quien pilla desprevenido, estaria guapo una campaña a dos bandos a ver quien es capaz de desembarcar tropas en el otro lado pero eso, no se si estara muy lejos ver algo asi. De todas formas el "proximo" sera tambien de ambiente naval con la conquista de MAlta de por medio, creo recordar.

Ya hablamos, lastima que no tengamos unas cervezas de por medio.... :D
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El CloD si está preparado para campañas dinámicas, lo que pasa es que lo dejó a medias y la comunidad ha hecho sus primeros intentos:

- No la he probado, es para offline: link.

- Luego los Halcones Rojos se han puesto manos a la obra y han cogido la base de "Kanalkampf" de Snafu para retocarla y mejorarla, os dejo también el link de la explicación de la campaña por parte de Snafu en el foro de 1C. En breve la van a lanzar todos los lunes desde el server del E69. Os dejo el link de los HR. Se registrará estadísticas, se tendrá en cuenta derribos, bajas y demás, de forma dinámica. Está ambientado a la B. de Inglaterra, por lo que no sé si habrá muchos movimientos terrestres (supongo que habrán convoys navales y terrestres, pero no avances de carros), por lo que para un primer intento no esta mal.

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Editado: al releerlo no me enteraba ni yo... @-)
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Estoy al tanto el "kanalklaft" no se muy bien como funciona pero bueno si recoge estadisticas ya es un paso a algo dinamico. 70 humanos volando algo asi seria ya la leche, no se muy bien como va lo de las misiones, creo que es algo continuo. en el que vas selecionando la mision segun entras al server, asi por lo menos tienes un objetivo y no es volar por volar, idea que es bastante buena por cierto, aunque no se hasta que punto es dinamico, me refiero que afecte a los "recursos y/o movimientos" de un bando u otro hablando ampliamente, de momento por lo que veo son misiones Pseudo-enlatadas dentro del server, y todo ello hecho a base de tiggers-scripts imagino para controlar las posibles consecuencias de las acciones. Pero entiendo que no es dinamico, se limita a contar bajas y dar puntos por accion. ¿creo? que alguien me corrija si me equivoco.
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http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread ... G27+Server


Main-Missions: (to start main-mission press TAB-4-2-2 in seat)

Klick for summary

These missions are rebuilt from real events (scaled down for playability) for player numbers of 4-6 (each in the RAF and LW) as teams going for the mission objective. You can read your mission task in the “Briefing” of the main game menu (ESC – then top left, next to map) or by using the custom menu by pressing (TAB-4-2-3).

Mission 1: 11.07.1940
15 Ju87 Stuka, escorted by 8 109s attack a convoy south of the Isle of Wight. 9 Hurricanes fly cover for the ships. The take off of the AI is triggered by a human player that either reaches the Isle of Wight (British player) or that overflies the airfield “Theville” (German player). Subsequently the Stukas will climb for 30min before they set course for the target. The human player is tasked to either defend the Stukas (German fighter), sink the ships (German bomber) or intercept the Stukas (British fighter). The British are also tasked with a recon mission to LeHavre.

Background: http://www.raf.mod.uk
“In the South, attacks on shipping were reported off the Isle of Wight and at 0741 hours a raid of six aircraft appeared in the Cherbourg area. Three sections of fighters were ordered to patrol Poole and on the approach of the enemy were reinforced by a further squadron. A fight ensued and 604 Squadron shot down a Ju87 confirmed and possibly a Ju87 unconfirmed.”

Mission 2: 19.07.1940
18 Do17z with 8 escorting Bf110C4 approach Calais from the south. They reach Calais after about 15min and should be escorted by German fighters to Dover where the Bombers attack the port. 9 Spit 1 will intercept over the Channel. Further 9 Hurricanes take off to intercept.

Background: http://www.raf.mod.uk
“About 30 enemy aircraft assembled behind Cap Gris Nez and approached Dover at 1215 hours. A squadron of Defiants (No. 141), one of Hurricanes and one of Spitfires took off to intercept. No. 141 Squadron was ordered to a position over Cap Gris Nez where it was attacked by 12 Me109s.”

Mission 3: 11.07.1940
24 He111H2, escorted by 8 Bf110C7 approach Bauvous and need to be escorted from LeHavre to Portsmouth. Over Portsmouth two flights of 109s join to cover the return of the bombers. The bombers target the port of portsmouth. 9 Hurricanes attack the formation near the Isle of Wight and a further 9 Hurricanes are triggered.

Background: http://www.raf.mod.uk
“At 1744 hours, a raid of some fifty aircraft attacked Portsmouth. Guided by accurate AA fire, two of our squadrons intercepted the enemy and in the ensuing combat, No 601 Squadron shot down 4 He111s and 1 Me110 for certain and 4 He111s probable. No 145 Squadron shot down 1 Me110 and 3 He111s for certain and lost one hurricane (pilot safe).
Bombs fell on Portsmouth setting fire to the gas works and causing some casualties. Pilots report that during this engagement, enemy bombers threw out various objects which appeared to be metal turnings, plates and wire, in great quantity.”

Mission 4: 14.07.1940
9 Ju87 Stuka take off from Calais and target a convoy south of Seaford. They are escorted by 8 Bf109s from Boulogne. A He115 flies recon over the convoy and is escorted by 2 109s. The recon flight is attached by 6 Hurricanes that fly cover for the convoy. 9 Spitfires take off from Gravesend to intercept the Stukas.

Background: http://www.raf.mod.uk
“At about 1500 hours, a number of raids were plotted, assembling behind Calais. In consequence, 3 fighter squadrons proceeded to investigate and intercepted an enemy force of 40 Ju87s, escorted by a number of Me109s over Dover and the Channel. Our aircraft shot down 3 Ju87s, 3 Me109s, and probably destroyed 1 Ju87 and 1 Me109. Our loss was one Hurricane. During this combat, a Hurricane which failed to answer a challenge was attacked by our fighters, whereupon it dived towards sea level and flew off towards France. Two merchant vessels were attacked and a naval unit hit during this engagement.”

Mission 5: 14.07.1940
9 Ju88 fly from Arras to Calais. Escorted by 8 Bf110s the Ju88 are ordered to attack a convoy south of Dover. 9 Spitfires fly cover and 9 Hurricanes are scrambled. A Do215 flys recon but flees from the Spitfires. The blue players are need to fly ahead of the Bombers (german figher) to engage the fighters or attack the convoy (german bomber). The red players need to cover the convoy (RAF fighter) or conduct a recon flight to LeCrotoy (RAF bomber).

Background: http://www.raf.mod.uk
“Between 1300 and 1400 hours several raids were over convoys near Dover. Our fighters were on escort duty and the raiders turned back.”

Mission 6: 13.07.1940
Variation of mission 2.
Ju87 with escorting Bf109s attack port of Dover and are intercepted by Hurricanes and Spitfires. German fighers are ordered to fly ahead of the bombers and the red fighters are ordered to intercept the bombers. Blue bombers target the port of Dover. Red bombers are ordered to destroy a German mine-layer.

Background: http://www.raf.mod.uk
“At about 1730 hours a mixed formation of Ju87s and Me109s attacked Dover Harbour and a convoy south of Dover. 64 Squadron (Spitfires) intercepted and shot down 2 Me109s unconfirmed. One Spitfire was slightly damaged by AA fire but landed safely. AA guns claim one Ju87 which was later seen to fall into the sea. This has not been confirmed.”

Mission 7: 12.08.1940
(Actually a mission for the August Szenario)
A flight of 15 Ju87 is ordered to attack the radar stations on the Isle of Wight. The Stukas are escorted by 8 109s and are intercepted by 9 Hurricanes and 6 Defiants.

Background: http://www.raf.mod.uk
“Ventnor was also bombed at about 1300 hours when five salvoes of bombs fell near pylons, and six unexploded DA bombs were reported to be near a railway tunnel.”

Mission 8: 12.08.1940
A Flight of Ju88 is tasked to attack the radar stations on the Isle of Wight. The 88s are escorted by Bf110s and are intercepted by Hurricanes and Spitfires.

Background: http://www.raf.mod.uk
“Day: Heavy raid on Portsmouth. Convoy in Thames Estuary, radar stations and coastal airfields attacked.”

Mission 9: 12.08.1940
A Flight of Ju87 is tasked to attack the radar stations near Eastbourne. The Stukas are escorted by 109s and are intercepted by Hurricanes and Spitfires.

Background: http://www.raf.mod.uk
“Day: Heavy raid on Portsmouth. Convoy in Thames Estuary, radar stations and coastal airfields attacked.”

Mission 10: 17.07.1940
Escorts of Bf 109 and Bf 110 have to meet a flight of D17 over Calais and escort them to their targets near Lydd and Ashford. The RAF will scramble in time and intercept the bombers. A secondary target of the RAF is to reconnoiter a position on the French coastline.

Background: http://www.raf.mod.uk
“One raid, a Do17, crossed the coasts at 1136 hours and came inland as far as Kenley. It was intercepted and chased out to sea over Pevensey, being damaged by our fighters. This raid dropped bombs near Kenley. Two attacks were reported on trawlers off Beachy Head, and three aircraft plotted South East of this point at 1515 hours are reported to be responsible for the bombs which were dropped near Ashford and Lydd.”

Mission 11: 17.07.1940
The German escorts consisting of Bf 109 and Bf 110 have to meet the bomber flights over Cherbourgh and escort them over the Isle of White to their target. The RAF will of course be there to challenge the raiders. A secondary target of the RAF is to reconnoiter a position on the French coastline.

Background: http://www.raf.mod.uk
“At 1540 hours three Heinkels were reported over Portland and appeared to attack the Mere Oil Fuel Depot, dropping six bombs. Slight damage was done to a railway and cloud enabled the raiders to achieve surprise. Although our fighters encountered a Junkers 88, which they attacked, off the Isle of Wight.”

Mission 12: 12.08.1940 (Semi-historical)
This mission is not quite typical for the Canal Kampf scenario, but should be fun for a change.
The RAF BC orders a flight of Blenheims to bomb the industrial area of Boulogne. The Blenheims will be escorted by Hurricanes and Spitfires. The LW sends up Bf 109 und Bf 110 to intercept the intruders. A secondary target of the LW is to reconnoiter a position on the English island.

Background: http://www.raf.mod.uk
“Twenty-four fighters escorted 18 Blenheims on a raid on Boulogne.”

Small-scale-Missions: (to start main-mission press TAB-4-3-2 in seat)
(An overview about the currently existing pool of missions is attached below)

These missions are rebuilt from real events for player numbers of 1-2 (each in the RAF and LW) as teams going for the mission objective.

Small-scale Mission 1: 10.07.1940
The LW sent out a Do17 to reconnoiter the straits in the area of Manston for Selsey Bill British shipping. The LW team has to escort this scout from Dunkerque to its target. The RAF tries to intercept the Do17 and scrambled 3 Spitfires of the 71 Sqn. from Rochford.

Background: http://www.raf.mod.uk
"During the day the main effort was concentrated in two attacks on shipping. At approximately 1100 hours a convoy was attacked off Manston by 1 Dornier escorted by 10 Me109s but in consequence of timely action by two of our fighter squadrons, the enemy aircraft were driven off. They suffered losses of 1 Me109 confirmed and 4 Me109s probable."

Small-scale Mission 2: 10.07.1940
The LW sent out a Do17 escorted by 2 Bf110 to reconnoiter the waters east of the Isle of Wight in the area of Selsey Bill for British shipping. The LW team has to escort this scout from Dieppe to its target. The RAF tries to intercept the Do17 and scrambled 3 Hurricanes of the 601 Sqn. from Tangmere.

Background: http://www.raf.mod.uk
“Of four raids, however, one, a Do17, was intercepted by No 601 Squadron and shot down off Selsey Bill."

Small-scale Mission 3: 10.07.1940
BC attacks Amiens-Glisy with 6 Blenheims. RAF player are free to escort the Blenheims from Dungeness to their target. The LW has the order to use an idle spawned Ju88 Reccon-Plane at Calais-Marck for a recon flight to RAF Gravesend. LW Player shall escort the Ju88.

Background: S. Bungay - The Most Dangerous Enemy: page151:
"In support of their colleagues fight against the Luftwaffe, 2 Group of Bomber Command ordered off six Blenheims of 107 Squadron to attack the airfields at Amiens which was base of the II./KG1. They had no fighter escort, and though the weather was not good it was not bad enough to protect them. As they approached low over the airfield, the flak opened up before the Bv109s arrived and five of the six aircraft were shot down."

Small-scale Mission 4: 12.07.1940
6 Ju87 of II./StG2 are ordered to strike a British convoy heading east of Bembrige. They are escorted by 2 Bf109 of 7.JG27 and intercepted by 601 Sqn Hurricanes.

Background: http://www.raf.mod.uk:
"A second, though less intensive raid, on shipping took place in the afternoon off the Isle of Wight. This was intercepted by one squadron and resulted in one enemy aircraft being shot down and two others probable."

Small-scale Mission 5: 15.07.1940
9 Do17Z are on a nuisance raid in the area of Brighton – Hove. One section of 610 Sqn Spitfires are on standing patrol near Dungeness and intercept the bombers. Players may escort or intercept.
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